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jsbowden ([personal profile] jsbowden) wrote2007-01-31 08:13 am

Why religious whackjobs are dangerous nuts and other fun...

A friend pointed me at another fine example of just what Christian Love and Tolerance actually means.

It also made me aware of Fundies Say the Darndest Things, which is a nice little slice of humanity at its finest.

I don't care if you're Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Sikh, Toaist, some flavor of pagan, etc...it doesn't matter...if you're so damned blind in your beliefs that you'd suppress or kill others who don't meet your standards, do the rest of us a favor and go take a long fucking walk off of a short fucking pier with cement shoes on.

We.

Don't.

Need.

YOU.

And us atheists are the 'dangerous' ones. Fuck all of you.

[identity profile] selki.livejournal.com 2007-02-01 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
Nobody commits suicide because of rejection, neither from parents or lovers or friends or gods. They just do it, because their operating system fails. It is a fluke. It is not a decision, it is a brain malfunction.

It looks to me like we haven't pinned such a complicated matter down yet, certainly not for all cases. Is it possible you may be over-generalizing from a few sad personal experiences?

Neither the deceased nor their family or friends are to blame. To do so is just unfair. ... [Suicide] just happens, like cancer.

Most types of cancers have risk factors. So does suicide. There are factors that appear to make it more likely. Parents, more than anyone else, are responsible for their childrens' welfare. Parents can increase suicide risk factors by their words and actions, just like they can increase their childrens' chances of various diseases by not providing a healthy variety of vegetables at mealtime. It's not unfair to point that out or to be angry at those parents.
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[identity profile] itlandm.livejournal.com 2007-02-01 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, one reason I chose to compare suicidal depression to cancer is exactly that both are partly genetic (especially early in life) and partly have environmental risk factors, which typically take years to come to fruition.

I would not be surprised if suicide rate is affected by sexual abuse in childhood, or random acts of violence, or drug abuse in the home with the randomized behavior that typically follows from that. When kids are small, the brain is still developing its basic structures. But that's completely different from "parents need to align their views on sexual morality with that of their child".