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jsbowden ([personal profile] jsbowden) wrote2008-03-21 10:07 am
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What boycott?

I refuse to engage in this silliness of the 'boycott' over how LJ handles new non-paying customers, so posting I am. I haven't upped my account to plus because I don't really care about the extra functionality, but if the folks at LJ don't want to give new free accounts my minimal level of access, that's their decision. It's their site, their bandwidth, servers, and bills.

So, Apple Software Update asked me if I wanted to install something this morning, and I assumed it was a Quicktime or iTunes update because I wasn't paying much attention. Turns out, it was Safari. Um, Steve, why? What's the point of porting Safari to Windows? Seriously?

just wondering...

[identity profile] dnmolo.livejournal.com 2008-03-21 02:22 pm (UTC)(link)
i'm new... what more do you have then i?

[identity profile] skwidly.livejournal.com 2008-03-21 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Safari? Really?

That's...sort of interesting, I guess, but just...why?

[identity profile] cerebresque.livejournal.com 2008-03-21 03:12 pm (UTC)(link)
So that people can have a browser that a) isn't IE, and b) doesn't require you to deal with the Firefox cultists1?

I can see that demand existing.

1. No offense to sane Firefox users or actual cultists intended, but it definitely, IMAO, falls into that category of software where one of the biggest disadvantages is the number of creepy, obsessive assholes amongst its user-base.

Re: just wondering...

[identity profile] jsbowden.livejournal.com 2008-03-21 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I have less, not more. But I also don't have ads.

[identity profile] publius1.livejournal.com 2008-03-21 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Whu? When did Firefox become a cult browser? Sheesh.. now I belong to the cults of vi, Firefox, and I-don't-know-what-else by sheer effect of liking them, and I hate it when cults form around things I like without me noticing it, damnit all.

[identity profile] markerikson.livejournal.com 2008-03-21 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Is there some enormous problem with IE?

[identity profile] cerebresque.livejournal.com 2008-03-21 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I don't think so, but lots of people seem to think there is.

(Most of the reasons they give are either spurious or reasons to prefer IE to Firefox, so far as I'm concerned, so.)

[identity profile] cerebresque.livejournal.com 2008-03-21 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, the usual time. As soon as people started thinking of the reasons why it's the best browser after deciding that it was, rather than vice versa. (Can't actually put a date on it, since it's evidently long enough ago to be outside my precise-memory time horizon.)
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[personal profile] kjn 2008-03-21 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Umm... I think there has been a beta of Safari for Windows for at least a year.

As for why, it's a whole another level of jobs.

[identity profile] publius1.livejournal.com 2008-03-21 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Why I like it: I can easy block Flash and pop-ups with Firefox. That's...pretty much it, actually. Simple interface too, but meh.

Re: just wondering...

[identity profile] dnmolo.livejournal.com 2008-03-21 04:23 pm (UTC)(link)
ahhh i see. yes the ads can be annoying.

[identity profile] paoconnell.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
I've tried Safari on a Mac. Not impressed, it's harder to use than Firefox or IE. If I ever get a Mac, Firefox or Seamonkey (successor to Mozilla) will be its browser.

The issue with IE is that it allows ActiveX controls to load and run without asking. If you're behind a corporate firewall and the ActiveX controls are used by some company application, then IE is tolerable. If you're a home or small business user, ActiveX is a security hole, and so is IE.

[identity profile] cerebresque.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
Not in recent versions, and always configurably not.

[identity profile] deor.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
That's just because neither group understands the glory that is Opera. :-)

[identity profile] dlganger.livejournal.com 2008-03-23 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Makes it easier for Windows-oriented website developers to test against Safari.