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jsbowden ([personal profile] jsbowden) wrote2008-04-03 10:38 am

The general interest points to...

Mormons!

Deluded morons who won't stay off your lawn or dangerous cult!?

GO!

[identity profile] pokeypenguin.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 02:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Do those answers conflict *at all*?

[identity profile] buzz.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Seconded.

[identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 02:50 pm (UTC)(link)
See, that's just ignorant. Why can't they be BOTH?

[identity profile] cerebresque.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 02:51 pm (UTC)(link)
No crazier than the average, just marginally more visible.

[identity profile] cerebresque.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
And they're god-crazy ON THEIR OWN TIME. Yet other people who are at least as crazy SET PUBLIC POLICY. FEAR THOSE PEOPLE!!! *apoplexy*

[identity profile] pokeypenguin.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 02:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, sure, but they wear golden underwear, and visible signs of "NOT LIKE US!!" are far more important than any piddling *actions* that people who don't wear golden underwear might take.

[identity profile] cerebresque.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 02:58 pm (UTC)(link)
visible signs of "NOT LIKE US!!" are far more important than any piddling *actions* that people who don't wear golden underwear might take

TO CRAZY PEOPLE, yes.

[identity profile] pokeypenguin.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 03:06 pm (UTC)(link)
TO CRAZY PEOPLE, yes.

I can only assume that you are here referring to the Mormons. Therefore: word, yo!

[identity profile] cerebresque.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 03:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, as a subset, but subsets count.

[identity profile] publius1.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Mormons want dearly to set public policy. Just FYI!

[identity profile] cerebresque.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Would all the CRAZY PEOPLE like to form an ORDERLY LINE, please? MORMONS, YOU ARE NUMBER FORTY-NINE!

[identity profile] publius1.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing is, though, that policymaking is not an ORDERLY PROCESS!

[identity profile] cerebresque.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
This calls for a POLICYMAKING POLICY!

[identity profile] cerebresque.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
(On a briefly more serious note, they're just such a small concern compared to much bigger groups of patently insane people, like socialists and deep greens and narcissists and anarchists and race-hustlers and so on and so forth, and even plain old fundamentalists of bigger religions, not to mention the Morons, of whom there are vastly more than there are Mormons.

By the time I get far enough down the list of dangers to the Republic to get to the Mormons, I'm all out of worry and can barely muster up the energy for an "enh, whatever".)

[identity profile] cerebresque.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 04:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Very dangerous, your common narcissist. Apart from such acute self-obsession exerting downward pressure on social cohesion and willingness to contribute to public goods, they're a breeding ground for sociopathy, starting out banal and moving towards malignant.

(Also, quite a few of them appear to have children as a means to their personal fulfillment, and so manage to fuck up the upcoming generation, too.)

[identity profile] leighdb.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
ExCUSE me, but your nasty words are filling up the whitespace on my SCREEN, and it's harder to see my REFLECTION in it now. GOD.

[identity profile] ceara.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
...I should have bought you an entire fleet of drinks last month when I had the chance.

[identity profile] leighdb.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I know, right?

It is so hard to get people to acknowledge the awesomeness of me in a timely manner!

[identity profile] prince-corwin.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
It might sound like fawning.

[identity profile] leighdb.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
And... the problem with this is...

*is puzzled, AWESOMELY*

[identity profile] cerebresque.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
What she said.

[identity profile] publius1.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
The Trouble with Narcissists is that they're by their very nature unwilling to work with others (their inferiors) to get what they want though, isn't it?

[identity profile] cerebresque.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, a narcissist does have that problem with subordination,, but as long as they can keep up an image of being a leader, a major figure, a Person of Significance in the Struggle, yadda yadda, it can pretty much work, right? Or they can find minions to follow Her Awesomeness, the Maximum Leader.

And even leaving that aside, just because they can't effectively work with each other doesn't preclude emergent effects, anyway.
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[personal profile] kjn 2008-04-03 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Chtulhu lawn ornaments!

[identity profile] publius1.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll go with Deluded for local Mormons, dangerous cult for the Fundamentalist LDS.

I seriously recommend and CANNOT RECOMMEND ENOUGH Krakauer's Under the Banner of Heaven to find out just how dangerous it is.

[identity profile] dlganger.livejournal.com 2008-04-03 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
The average Mormon is definitely somebody I'd want as a neighbor or good friend. It's just when they have enough of them together that they get cult-like and weird.

So, as long as I'm not living in Utah, Northern Utah (aka Southern Idaho), or other territories where they dominate the local town infrastructure, I'm fine with them.

Their leaders, on the other hand...stake-level leaders and up are just WEIRD.

[identity profile] terra-lily.livejournal.com 2008-04-05 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)

So, as long as I'm not living in Utah, Northern Utah (aka Southern Idaho), or other territories where they dominate the local town infrastructure, I'm fine with them.


A friend of mine is a Jew who grew up in Salt Lake City. Not coincidentially, her best friend in high school was a gay kid.

Not surprisingly, she a) is absolutely fucking hilarious and b) works on the Hill for Sen. Kennedy.

[identity profile] deza.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
I've found that answering the door naked, drenched in a red liquid and holding a bloody knife only to smile cheerily and say "Oh, I'm happily pagan. Won't you come in? I'd love to discuss beliefs with you" not only makes them get off my lawn, but makes them do so at some speed. They don't come around any more, either.

[identity profile] terra-lily.livejournal.com 2008-04-05 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Neither. They're the scary conservatives who keep quiet about their desire to destroy my life by turning my vagina into a clown car.