So over in Will [livejournal.com profile] scifantasy Frank's Journal, there is much early 20s psychodrama exhibiting itself for no particular reason other than that's what early 20 somethings DO.

Going back and reading over it though, I'm reminded of a mindset that just annoys the shit out of me. What I'm reminded of are the people who referred to themselves as 'straight edge' in the late 80s and early 90s. For the most part they were sanctimonious and whiny pricks who either got over it, or became the sort of people who you see on your door step and immediately think of what line would be best to scare them off (Hey, we need a sacrifice for our ceremony, can you come back on Tuesday of next week? KTHXBYE!) Dude, I'm happy for you that you don't drink, take drugs, use bad language, et-fucking-cetera, but you know what? I don't care about your thoughts on the fact that I do. If I did, I'd kick your ass until you either shut the fuck up or recited the godsdamned opinion I think you should be holding anyway. Go listen to some Fugazi and cry or something, but do it somewhere ELSE. And take this awful shit you call music with you; it fucking blows.

It also lead me to finally figure out why the neocons aggravate me so much. They're like the straight edge whiners, but without enough balls to even rebel halfway, and they just can't handle that other people do. Oh yes, and a political presence. Whining busybodies with an agenda. Just what the world needs less of. Real conservatives aren't interested in who you're fucking, what you're drinking, or what you're snorting, smoking, or shooting up, they just want to profit from it with as little interference and taxation as possible. Social programs are acceptable so long as they are within budget. Religion is your problem; it's not their soul, and thusly not their problem. They'd play religious on TV because it got them voted for, but they had vices and mistresses on the side. They were people. Neocons are like Stepford Wives, perfect little robots doing exactly what they're programmed to do, who want to turn the rest of us into something just like them. Fuck 'em.

From: [identity profile] missysedai.livejournal.com


Dude, I'm happy for you that you don't drink, take drugs, use bad language, et-fucking-cetera, but you know what? I don't care about your thoughts on the fact that I do. If I did, I'd kick your ass until you either shut the fuck up or recited the godsdamned opinion I think you should be holding anyway.

Oh, yeah.

I got lectured at length by "friends" when I returned from Germany because I had picked up a taste for good beer and good wine and a greater propensity towards swearing than I had had before. Not abstaining from alcohol made me immoral, and swearing meant that I had allowed my brain to atrophy (because only bears of very little brain ever say anything harsher than "Golly!").

Never was I so glad to be rid of people as I was to be rid of those people. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

From: [identity profile] ceara.livejournal.com


I've noticed that mindset about swearing, too. And I've also seen the people they're talking about - the ones that say "fuckin'" every third word to stall for time to hunt for the next word-of-meaning in their statement. It's odd, though, to conflate those people with the creatively-profane.

From: [identity profile] jsbowden.livejournal.com


Yes, but that particular verbal tic is annoying whether every third word is 'um', 'like', 'fuck', etcetera. The mental mushroom employing it needs to shut the fuck up for a bit, consider what they actually want to say, and then open their pie holes, but not before they actually have a clue what they want exiting their mouths. The world does not depend on a constant stream of mindless verbiage from them to turn.

From: [identity profile] rimrunner.livejournal.com


Real conservatives aren't interested in who you're fucking, what you're drinking, or what you're snorting, smoking, or shooting up, they just want to profit from it with as little interference and taxation as possible.

THANK you.

I really, really, really hate it when people think that all conservatives act, think, and believe the way neocons do. Cause my folks are conservatives of the old school, and they think that shit is whack.

And amen to the rest of your statement, really.

From: [identity profile] jsbowden.livejournal.com


I should amend that statement slightly, they DO care, but only because it makes it easier to cater to your tastes and make even more money in the process.

From: [identity profile] locumtenens.livejournal.com


Whining busybodies with an agenda.

Sounds like 99% of the people I went to college with. God, I am so glad to be past that stage. I don't envy Will in the slightest way.

From: [identity profile] jsbowden.livejournal.com


Fortunately, those seem to be rare in engineering, math, and science depts.

From: [identity profile] locumtenens.livejournal.com


Probably at most places, but I made the interesting choice of attending a small, Southern Baptist, private university (and was a Biology major for the most part). Don't laugh - I was in a strange place at 18. I like to think of it as "To the Right Side and Back Again: A Liberal's Tale".

From: [identity profile] publius1.livejournal.com


Can you please never use "kthxbye" again? Like, ever? Kthxbye.

From: [identity profile] corruptedjasper.livejournal.com


OMGWTFBBQ! kthxbye is *so* the phrase to use. Repeatedly, continuously, and without waiting for the appropriate time.
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